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San Juan Bautista Council discusses last meeting's sudden adjournment, Mayor attempts to remove Planning Commissioner

The Mayor's attempted removal of planning commissioner John Hopper causes confusion among audience members. The agenda item is set to be moved to a future meeting.

San Juan Bautista City Council members Nov 8, addressed council member Dan DeVries' behavior at the past meeting on Oct. 24. Mayor Martorana then announced his intention to remove planning commissioner John Hopper, accusing him of "exceeding authority". 

Nov. 8, city council continued its special meeting which had been adjourned abruptly Oct. 24 with a 3-2 vote.

The San Juan council regularly scheduled meeting had also been cancelled the week before due to not having posted the agenda on the city's website. The Brown Act requires the agenda of regular meetings to be posted at least 72 hours before the meeting. 

Nov. 8, the first order of business for city council members was to address the Oct. 24 early adjournment with Mayor Chris Martorana suggesting they adopt a code of conduct. 

In the week following the adjournment, BenitoLink asked San Juan Bautista Martorna to state directly why the Oct 24 meeting was suddenly adjourned.  "We ended the meeting because it became apparent that the meeting was not going to move forward productively," Mayor Chris Martorana told BenitoLink vaguely. With further prodding, he added that councilman Dan DeVries was intoxicated and stated that no direct action would be taken against him.  

The Oct. 24 meeting was disrupted during the action item to increase acting city manager, Ed Tewes' hours from 32 to 40 per week. After a back and forth discussion with councilman DeVries, his fellow council members and city staff went over the next steps that needed to be taken on the agenda item, the audience became frustrated and community member Rachel Ponce asked that the meeting be adjourned early.  She said the residents of San Juan Bautista deserved better than what they were getting and deemed it an embarrassment. The meeting ended abruptly. 

Rumors about DeVries being intoxicated at the city council meeting arose on the Facebook group, "What's Going on San Juan Bautista," with some calling for a recess to be called to deal with DeVries instead of ending the meeting.       

BenitoLink attempted to reach councilman DeVries several times but he was not immediately available for comment following the incident.  On the Facebook group page DeVries wrote, "Hey San Juan. I’m out. All the best to you guys." The comments left residents to wonder if he would continue to serve on the council.  

DeVries did attend as a council member at the Nov. 8 meeting, where he read a letter of apology addressed to the mayor, the city of San Juan Bautista, and the members of the city council.  

"Although I have spoken to several of you individually, I wanted to take this opportunity to once again extend my heartfelt apology for my conduct at the Oct. 24 city council meeting. It was not only beneath my own personal standards of conduct and violated what I consider to be the standards of conduct of the office and what the community deserves of us in general, as well as what I know we expect from one another. It won't happen again, " he said. "I can tell you that also since Oct. 24, I've heard about the possible adoption of a code of conduct for council members and I whole-heartedly agree with that." 

DeVries continued, "I feel that Oct. 24 was unfortunate. It was a bad night for me. I think that's all I need to say and I want to move on and continue to do good work for the city of San Juan Bautista." 

Later in the discussion, city attorney Deborah Mall said a code of conduct is typically a voluntary statement by the council on what they do at meetings and there's no way to enforce it, adding it would only apply to the current members of the city council and would have to be revisited by the following council. 

Councilman Tony Boch said, "I wonder why it is so complicated. All you have to do is act like a decent human being and treat your fellow council members and public with respect. That's it. Period." 

During public comment, community member Rachel Ponce agreed with Boch's statement adding, "Behave yourself and be respectful of the position that you hold."  

San Benito County resident Elia Salinas said, "I don’t think we should be beating a dead horse. I think the issue has been taken care off. "   

Salinas continued saying she recommended council members go on a "retreat" and talk amongst themselves instead of in an open forum. 

Martorana responded saying it was a wonderful sentiment but that it was illegal. 

"It is not legal for us to meet in a non-public forum with a very few exceptions and that unfortunately would not qualify as one of those exceptions," he said.  

Leslie Austin of Aromas said "First, I just want to say to Dan, I thought your message to the community was very courageous and I applaud you."  

San Juan Bautista resident Mandisa Snodey thanked DeVries for addressing the public. "Dan thank you, that took a lot of courage and a lot of integrity to address that difficult topic. I support you and I thank you for being able to show up for San Juan. I know that you do your best. I know that you have a good heart and I just want to acknowledge you like that." 

Snodey continued, "You got a lot of heat, you got a lot of disrespect put at you. I don't agree with this community continuing in a judgmental way. We need to embrace each other. Whether we have acceptable behavior or unacceptable behavior." 

Former Councilwomen Joleen Cosio said, "...I would like to say to Dan, personally I would really like to have heard you say 'but if it does happen again, x,y,z.' Because I know you said it will not happen again but just in case I would like to hear what your proposal would be if it does." 

San Juan resident Jackie Morris agreed with Snodey's comments adding, "We voted for you. The people that voted for you have confidence in you. We all have our off days and l think we need to be more forgiving and more understanding."  

John Hopper's Proposed Removal from San Juan Bautista Planning Commission 

City council members also discussed the possible removal of Planning Commission Chair John Hopper. Mayor Martorana introduced the agenda item stating Hopper would be removed without cause.  

San Juan Bautista has seen major staff changes over the last couple months with city manager Roger Grimsley resigning in late August and Matt Orbach resigned as community development director, shortly afterward.  

During public comment, some members of the audience said there should have been a reason stated for Hopper's proposed removal.  

Snodey said, "I just want to understand what is the due process, what is the legal process for arbitrarily removing a planning commissioner with no reason and then find somebody to replace him. I want to know really, if you're not going to tell me why you're doing this, then what is your plan to remedy it and to make our planning commission whole so they can get to business."  

Morris said, "I don't need to know the why because I read the code book and it says that you can dismiss without cause. I just want to say that I whole-heartedly disagree with this action you are about to take place. From my perception with coming to these meeting for about a year now, I see that the planning commission has a very important job and I feel that chairman, Mr. Hopper, does a wonderful job to keep the spirit of San Juan, San Juan.  

She continued, "He's the only person in this room right now, with the exception of a couple of members on the board that was against Copperleaf, that was against Rancho Vista, and he was to keep our town San Juan. Limited growth, sensible growth. He listens, he speaks to the desires of the community and I feel that right now you've just done a 180. You sat up there and talked about transparency and now Mayor Martorana, you're saying 'get rid of him' because you can. As a public member this just fosters more mistrust."   

Salinas agreed with previous speakers adding, "Not giving us a reason as to why is really an easy way out for you all. I find it absurd that you're doing this. Mr. Hopper is dedicated to the city. He's been living here for a long time. He's dedicated to this community and I find it very offensive that you don't give the public a reason for why you're doing this."  

San Juan Bautista resident George Diaz said, "obviously like everybody before me, we don't know why you want to get rid of John but if it's because of this 'no-growth' stance, keep him, we need him.  He's the only one who's trying to keep everything under control. The growth in this town is outrageous. You guys should have put a stop or moratorium on it until it gets under control." 

Hopper addressed the public saying he has been dedicated to San Juan Bautista since the day he moved there adding that he has always acted with his heart. 

"I've always done what's right. What I think was right for you in this town. I was at a meeting with one of our city council members and he said to me that because I am anti-growth and because of the positions and stances that I take, this was an issue," he said. "They were trying to get other people on the planning commission that were more favorable towards growth. One of them was appointed tonight." 

David Medeiros was appointed to the planning commission earlier in the meeting following the council's acceptance of Andy Moore's resignation.  

Hopper continued saying, "I was also told, and I would like to apologize to you publicly if you think this is correct, that my leadership style was inappropriate. That I acted like it was my commission. That when I came to public meetings I spoke strongly in that manner. From the bottom of my heart if anybody feels that way, I apologize. 

"I will say to you that when this came to me unfortunately it was discussed in violation of the Brown Act. Numerous council members talked to me that had talked to each other. I was also surprised to see this item on the agenda because I thought this item for tonight's meeting was to discuss business that wasn't concluded in the last meeting. So whatever action they take I want you to know that I will continue to work hard for this community," Hopper said. "For me to be characterized as anti-growth that is not true. I am very in favor of well- planned growth and growth that makes sense..."  

Councilman John Freeman also asked what the reasons were for removing Hopper, directing his question to Mayor Martorana. 

Attorney Mall interjected saying the removal was stated without cause and if they wanted to get into the cause they would have to set an evidentiary hearing at a future meeting. 

Freeman continued saying that if there was going to be no cause given he would try to stop Hopper's removal. 

"On Nov. 27 at 3 p.m. I went over to a certain councilman's house, councilman (Jim) West, and we talked for a while and he stated that he talked to another city council member. He didn’t say who, it doesn't matter, Brown Act violation right there." 

Councilman West responded to Freeman's statement saying it wasn’t true. He added later during the discussion that he didn’t remember having a conversation with Freeman about Hopper.  

Councilman Freeman went on to say that Mayor Martorana was also in violation of the Brown Act stating they had a conversation on the topic on Monday at 1 p.m.  

"So, I will sue under the Brown Act," Freeman said. 

Mayor Martorana proceeded to call a five minute recess to consult with city attorney Mall.  

After the Recess Freeman continued questioning the Mayor's proposal to remove Hopper.  

"It's really bad management. What is going on in your mind? You're doing 180's here. It concerns me," he said. 

Mayor Martorana made a comment as to why Hopper was being removed before being cut off by attorney Mall. 

 "I think we were talking cause for exceeding authority," he said.  

With a 2-3 vote, Hopper will remain on the planning commission. While no official date has been given, the agenda item will be moved to a future meeting. 

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Good story that had to cover a lot of ground, thanks Laura.

The impression I get is that the SJB City Council is turning into a bit of a personality and popularity contest; one wonders where they find the time given all the real work that has to be done.

Is group therapy a violation of the Brown Act or is it exempt?  Looks like they may need a couple of sessions.

Marty Richman

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Marty, Well not quite, but getting close.  I think since the resignation of the former City Manager several people have taken their eyes off the ball.  Kind of like the dog that chases the car, once the dog catches it, then what the heck does he do with it?   Yes we do have a lot of work to do  and putting out divisive motions like that of removing planning commissioners gets us nowhere, plus it takes up tremendous amounts of time and energy.   I spent a good part of the meeting introducing motions on substantive issues (not mentioned in the article, proving my point) that will improve the life of the people in San Juan. 

Hi John, since I don't know the group dynamics I just hope that things do not get too personal; if they do the  members will start voting based on who is on which side of an issue and not based on the merits of the  issue at hand   It's human nature. 

A more immediate problem is that a key member of the staff now knows the Mayor has lost confidence in their ability to do the job.  Naturally, any discussions of potential personnel changes involving demotion or termination (even if it's an unpaid position)  should have taken place in closed session where everyone could air out their opinion on the employee's performance in private.

Good luck getting over those problems because they often leave a bad after-taste.

Marty Richman

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Thank you, Marty and Carol, 

The reasons why this was introduced by the Mayor and one other councilperson are still not clear to me. They gave me a lot of excuses and talked about some very small stuff, the real reason goes deeper than that. Yes a closed session would of been better, but two members of the  council thought they could just blow up the Planning Commission (BTW the best functioning body in our city) on a whim.  I did not let them. Yes Marty, my long and varied agenda for the city may be put on hold for 12 months when three of the council members will be retiring including the two trying to remove the Planning Commissioner.  But I will push on anyway.  Let the chips fall where they may.  I pride myself on my ability to get along with most people.  I had a good relationship with both of them and I hope we can put this behind us and become a functioning council again.

I met with Mr. Hopper and had several email correspondences while we were setting up the last joint planning commissions meeting. My impression of him was that he was very professional, smart and loyal to San Juan Bautista. I felt he was very qualified for his position and I have spent a career working with different planning commissioners. I thought he was one of the more sincere public servants. I acknowledge I don’t know all the facts but in representing SJB I felt he made a good first impression when I met him.  It would be a shame to lose him in my opinion.

Carol Lenoir 

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Thank you Carol for your support from a planning commissioner point of view.  Something neither of the mayor or the other councilperson have ever been.   

Submitted by Ray Pierce (GuruD) on

I would echo Carol as well. During the Joint meeting of Hollister city planning, San Benito County Planning Mr. Hooper ,as a representative of San Juan Bautista Planning commission, served his city well with a good, balanced, professional approach to the planning discussion.

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